Maelstrom - Guild Wars Forums

addlock · Jul 07, 2009, 03:50 PM // 15:50

i personally think this skill needs a nerf becuz first of all it interrupts a skill every second, secondly u dont stand much of a chance against it if ur a caster urself .. Most of the time ur also getting slowed down which makes it even harder to get out of the AoE ..

opinions?

Arduin · Jul 07, 2009, 03:53 PM // 15:53

The area of effect is tiny.

payne · Jul 07, 2009, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by addlock

i personally think this skill needs a nerf becuz first of all it interrupts a skill every second, secondly u dont stand much of a chance against it if ur a caster urself .. Most of the time ur also getting slowed down which makes it even harder to get out of the AoE ..

opinions?

if your h/h - get your monk or other heroes to carry anti-hex spells to get snares off you i.e. mind freeze - popular combo from imps

if not just run for it

the AoE is not large and all that is required is you move a bit....
casters don't have a huge problem tbh unless your monk - but even so maelstrom is only really used in 6man+ areas (plz don't quote me on this) - so you should have a second monk available to relieve pressure that your team may be taking whilst you move...
alternatively if you are a different caster type - well it doesn't matter if your monks aen't being squished...

DOES NOT need a nerf - if it was used in an imba combo in say high-end PvP then sure maybe nerf it but as its only used in PvE - A-Net just don't care

personally never really had an issue with it anyway - my 2cents

Cirian · Jul 07, 2009, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by addlock

i personally think this skill needs a nerf becuz first of all it interrupts a skill every second, secondly u dont stand much of a chance against it if ur a caster urself .. Most of the time ur also getting slowed down which makes it even harder to get out of the AoE ..

opinions?

Wait... Ice Imps? Yeah, they rock. There are also Meteor Shower using imps that come in groups too. Ah, I remember the days when you couldn't flag henchmen out of that sort of thing and the whole party used to explode. Fun times.

Aaaaaaaanyway, Maelstrom? It's a good skill. Interrupting every second is what makes it Maelstrom. Otherwise it'd just be a weak, expensive, exhausting Firestorm. It needs to be used with snares to get the most out of it though.

payne · Jul 07, 2009, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by Cirian

Wait... Ice Imps? Yeah, they rock. There are also Meteor Shower using imps that come in groups too. Ah, I remember the days when you couldn't flag henchmen out of that sort of thing and the whole party used to explode. Fun times.

Aaaaaaaanyway, Maelstrom? It's a good skill. Interrupting every second is what makes it Maelstrom. Otherwise it'd just be a weak, expensive, exhausting Firestorm. It needs to be used with snares to get the most out of it though.

imps (fire imps and sparks) have rodgorts invocation - that one really hurts unlike maelstrom - especially with unseperateable henchman - big damage if 4+ imps are killing your ass with it....MS is easier to avoid...

O and ITS EASILY INTERUPTABLE

lord of all tyria · Jul 07, 2009, 04:55 PM // 16:55

OP: No, maelstrom does not need to be nerfed. Its not good to begin with.

Mordakai · Jul 07, 2009, 06:11 PM // 18:11

I was wondering if I should give my Hero Maelstrom...

sounds like Met. Shower is still better.

Snograt · Jul 07, 2009, 08:43 PM // 20:43

Yeah, I love heroes with Meteor Shower. They really enjoy setting it off as a sort of celebration once all the enemies are dead.

rick1027 · Jul 07, 2009, 09:26 PM // 21:26

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Originally Posted by Snograt

Yeah, I love heroes with Meteor Shower. They really enjoy setting it off as a sort of celebration once all the enemies are dead.

yes it fireworks after the show thats why i love cynn so much she sure does loves her post celebrations. it is nice when your trying a new sucky team build out and you have to rely on her to finish off a few foes thats when you know its back to the drawing board

HawkofStorms · Jul 07, 2009, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Maelstorm is a great water magic skill in PvE. It's almost always on my bar when I run water in PvE. Of course, its no better then CoP or Technobabble. But obviously, since those can't be used by monsters, players don't whine about them....

/notsigned

zelgadissan · Jul 07, 2009, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Maelstrom is the smallest possible AoE (unless you count scythe AoE), costs 25e, causes Exhaustion, and has a casting time that just screams "interrupt me pl0x". With all that going against it, it deserves to have a niche ability like constant interruption. Also, snaring somebody in this is just common sense and good tactics.

Why does this skill possibly need a nerf?

Lawliet Kira · Jul 07, 2009, 10:09 PM // 22:09

if anything this skill needs a buff

BoondockSaint · Jul 07, 2009, 10:18 PM // 22:18

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Originally Posted by Avatar The Element

if anything this skill needs a buff

agreed, too expensive in pvp, and its most powerful effect is not as usful in pve, (inturpting.)

Arkantos · Jul 07, 2009, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by zelgadissan

Maelstrom is the smallest possible AoE (unless you count scythe AoE), costs 25e, causes Exhaustion, and has a casting time that just screams "interrupt me pl0x". With all that going against it, it deserves to have a niche ability like constant interruption. Also, snaring somebody in this is just common sense and good tactics.

Why does this skill possibly need a nerf?

This.

Maelstorm is a pretty horrible skill. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say it needed a nerf...and it doesn't.

Regulus X · Jul 08, 2009, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by addlock

i personally think this skill needs a nerf becuz first of all it interrupts a skill every second, secondly u dont stand much of a chance against it if ur a caster urself .. Most of the time ur also getting slowed down which makes it even harder to get out of the AoE ..

opinions?

Either you're just a lousy troll, or you're highly unskilled. So, which is it? o0

FengShuiDove · Jul 08, 2009, 01:45 AM // 01:45

Step 1: Move

...that's... that's actually it. If it's the interrupts that are a problem, move, the AoE is tiny. If it's the damage or you're snared in it, time a PS in between bursts.

Hyper.nl · Jul 08, 2009, 09:56 AM // 09:56

It needs a nerf? No way! It needs a buff imo. Currently it is not a very good skill because it does low damage and you can quickly walk away from the interrupt AOE. The interrupt only interrupts spells, so warriors, rangers and other physicals can safely ignore it.

Overall Meteor Shower is a much better skill. Another reason why Water magic generally feels underpowered and why many eles use Fire builds instead.

IrishX · Jul 08, 2009, 01:02 PM // 13:02

Maelstrom is already a niche skill at best, and you want to nerf it...seriously? The only time I've seen it even semi-useful is against incredibly stupid bloodspam teams.

MithranArkanere · Jul 08, 2009, 01:34 PM // 13:34

1..3 Three steps and you are out. No need to. The thing with AoE is that anyone stays inside, they deserve the consequences.

EinherjarMx · Jul 08, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by Snograt

Yeah, I love heroes with Meteor Shower. They really enjoy setting it off as a sort of celebration once all the enemies are dead.

That's what happens when you're too leet.

just /notsigned

If maelstrom needs something is a minor buff

Jul 07, 2009, 03:50 PM // 15:50	#1
addlock Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2008	Maelstrom i personally think this skill needs a nerf becuz first of all it interrupts a skill every second, secondly u dont stand much of a chance against it if ur a caster urself .. Most of the time ur also getting slowed down which makes it even harder to get out of the AoE .. opinions?

Jul 07, 2009, 08:43 PM // 20:43	#8
Snograt rattus rattus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST Guild: [GURU]GW [wiki]GW2 Profession: R/	Yeah, I love heroes with Meteor Shower. They really enjoy setting it off as a sort of celebration once all the enemies are dead. __________________ Si non confectus, non reficiat

Jul 07, 2009, 03:53 PM // 15:53	#2
Arduin Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ] Profession: R/	The area of effect is tiny.

Jul 07, 2009, 04:55 PM // 16:55	#6
lord of all tyria Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2007	OP: No, maelstrom does not need to be nerfed. Its not good to begin with.

Jul 07, 2009, 06:11 PM // 18:11	#7
Mordakai Grotto Attendant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kyhlo Profession: W/	I was wondering if I should give my Hero Maelstrom... sounds like Met. Shower is still better.

Jul 07, 2009, 09:29 PM // 21:29	#10
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Maelstorm is a great water magic skill in PvE. It's almost always on my bar when I run water in PvE. Of course, its no better then CoP or Technobabble. But obviously, since those can't be used by monsters, players don't whine about them.... /notsigned

Jul 07, 2009, 09:52 PM // 21:52	#11
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	Maelstrom is the smallest possible AoE (unless you count scythe AoE), costs 25e, causes Exhaustion, and has a casting time that just screams "interrupt me pl0x". With all that going against it, it deserves to have a niche ability like constant interruption. Also, snaring somebody in this is just common sense and good tactics. Why does this skill possibly need a nerf?

Jul 07, 2009, 10:09 PM // 22:09	#12
Lawliet Kira Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2006 Profession: E/Me	if anything this skill needs a buff

Jul 08, 2009, 01:45 AM // 01:45	#16
FengShuiDove Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] Profession: A/	Step 1: Move ...that's... that's actually it. If it's the interrupts that are a problem, move, the AoE is tiny. If it's the damage or you're snared in it, time a PS in between bursts.

Jul 08, 2009, 09:56 AM // 09:56	#17
Hyper.nl Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Defending Fort Aspenwood Profession: E/	It needs a nerf? No way! It needs a buff imo. Currently it is not a very good skill because it does low damage and you can quickly walk away from the interrupt AOE. The interrupt only interrupts spells, so warriors, rangers and other physicals can safely ignore it. Overall Meteor Shower is a much better skill. Another reason why Water magic generally feels underpowered and why many eles use Fire builds instead.

Jul 08, 2009, 01:02 PM // 13:02	#18
IrishX Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2008 Profession: W/	Maelstrom is already a niche skill at best, and you want to nerf it...seriously? The only time I've seen it even semi-useful is against incredibly stupid bloodspam teams.

Jul 08, 2009, 01:34 PM // 13:34	#19
MithranArkanere Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo Guild: Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO] Profession: E/	1..3 Three steps and you are out. No need to. The thing with AoE is that anyone stays inside, they deserve the consequences.